Dreaded LE Code

[UltimateDIY]

I've read through the forum and about the only thing remaining for me seems to be to replace the motor on this 2 year old LG LDS5811ST dishwasher.  Wish I'd known about the problems before hand.
I did see one post from a technician showing that I should replace the entire assembly M006 (from repair manual) or is it possible to just replace the vario motor M060?  It seems like everything else is working.  Is the motor sold seperately?

[JWWebster]

I looked in my manual Page 47* M060 is part number 4681ED1004A. Went to the LG parts website and found one here:

$77

What ya think?

*I have all the dishwasher manuals including yours specific one but they are all the same and this manual is a printable version that I already loaded on my google docs site

[john63]

I've read through the forum and about the only thing remaining for me seems to be to replace the motor on this 2 yo dw.  Wish I'd known about the problems before hand.
I did see one post from a technician showing that I should replace the entire assembly M006 (from repair manual) or is it possible to just replace the vario motor M060?  It seems like everything else is working.  Is the motor sold seperately?

Yes--the WASH MOTOR is sold separately--however it is better to replace the entire SUMP ASSEMBLY (AJH31248604).

Replacing the WASH MOTOR requires fully disassembling the sump assy which isn't difficult but the major difficulty will be correctly re-installing the small/flimsy gaskets. During disassembly these gaskets will become *stretched* and are difficult to re-use.
There *will* be a high risk of loss-of-water-pressure from an improperly sealed chamber within the sump assembly.

[UltimateDIY]

I appreciate the help from everybody.  I guess if I keep the LG I'm going to have to keep the link to the LG parts website.

Thanks again.

[john63]

I appreciate the help from everybody.  I guess if I keep the LG I'm going to have to keep the link to the LG parts website.

Thanks again.

Your welcome.
The main disappointment with earlier LG dishwashers was failing SUMP ASSEMBLIES.
The new AJH31248604 SUMP ASSY which replaces the original number 6871DD1002B---is *not* prone to failure and is a vast improvement.

If you post your full model & serial number--I can provide  information---that applies to your dishwasher.

[JWWebster]

Johnny do you recommend an LG parts outlet in particular? Is the one I gave up to par? Thanks in advance sir.

[john63]

Hello JW

LG Electronics parts availability is somewhat sporadic.
It's possible that LG originally wanted no parts "middleman" similar to Miele appliances.
I do not know the corporate motivation for this other than possibly a profit motive.
Over time--there has been a growing number of authorized parts dealers--one those is MCM ELECTRONICS.
Not long after Sears began to sell *some*LG branded appliances--parts were offered through the Sears parts dept.
Interestingly--it was reported in appliancemagine.com that beginning in 2010 most if not all Kenmore refrigerators will be LG manufactured.
This will likely expand Sear's inventory of LG replacement parts.
Another source would be www.repairclinic.com

I have not researched into any of these parts sources to compare them against LG--to see if they offer the same "depth" of availability. A few years back--MCM had a very,very small inventory of LG components--I would imagine that has since been expanded.

[RegUS_PatOff]

... most if not all Kenmore refrigerators will be LG manufactured...

along with the Washers & Dryers (goodbye Whirlpool)

... the new line of Kenmore and Kenmore Elite washers.
 
They move in five unique and revolutionary ways.
 
Smart Motion Technology is based on the agile Direct Drive Motor that precisely
controls the action of the drum, creating five unique wash motions, so
everything from rugged workwear to denim to lingerie gets just the right
amount of care.
 
Consumers get the best of both worlds -- cleaning power and fabric care -- in one washer.
The five wash motions are custom combined for each wash cycle to give the right amount
of care to each garment type.
 
The five motions include:

    --  Tumbling - Conventional wash motion where clothes are moved from the
        bottom of the drum to the top of the drum in a large, circular motion.

    --  Rolling - Clothes are gently moved in a small circle along the bottom of
        the drum, keeping them immersed in water.

    --  Scrubbing - The drum alternates direction causing friction between the
        clothes, which creates a scrubbing effect and keeps clothes immersed in
        water.

    --  Swinging - Clothes are gently tossed side-to-side for a delicate hand
        wash effect.

    --  Stepping - Clothes are lifted to the top of the drum and then dropped
        sharply to the bottom of the drum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpq3JbaRRRw

[john63]

A six-motion washer is being introduced shortly...

[Mr. Fix-It]

Is this really neccesary, manufacturers should concentrate more on long term reliability than stuffing machines with needless features that will cause more problems. I am starting to experience a lot of resentment from customers who wonder why their appliances are garbage after less than 10 years. Then they ask me which manufacturer makes reliable products and I cannot give them a straight answer because there isn't any.

[john63]

A little clarification...

Five & six motion technology is not the addition of more components to the washer--it's all *software* (The Main Board).

Computers and sensors allow for maximum efficiency which was not possible in older front load washers with mechanical controls.

While it can be argued that it's taking  longer than most of us desire--the reliability and durability of "modern" appliances is improving steadily.

For example:
We've gone from RECIPROCATING compressors (reliable but not as efficient) to ROTARY compressors (more efficient but less reliable) to LINEAR compressors (very efficient and much more reliable than rotary).

[john63]

An LG linear compressor operating at *full throttle* uses only about 100 watts.

When the temperature in the freezer/refrigerator is reached--the compressor will run only as needed to maintain temperature. Depending on the thermistor data--the compressor may operate at 20% to 50% capacity to recover whenever the freezer or refrigerator door is opened.

This compressor also has only ONE MOVING PART.
It's very very quiet due to the initial *start-up* operating at 50% capacity and then gradually ramping up to 100% (Very Low Starting Torque).

No START/RUN CAPACITORS or COMPRESSOR RELAYS are on the compressor--the MAIN BOARD operates the compressor.

The compressor has only (2) wires---this means that a technician can rule out a compressor fault in a NO START service call by simply adding a homemade plug to the two terminals on the linear compressor---plug it in/test it.
(always verify that the compressor is a 110 variable-voltage unit).


 

[MajorApp]

 We've come a long way since the wash board. I'm waiting for a dryer that will iron and fold my clothes. Cmon Kenmore/LG, you can do it!

[AJ]

I'm waiting for a dryer that will iron and fold my clothes. Cmon Kenmore/LG, you can do it!

How about a robot that folds towels?

[Mr. Fix-It]

All this in the name of energy efficiency but where is there really energy savings when appliances last less then 10 years. They don't take into consideration how much energy it takes to scrap a dead appliance and build a new one. You can have features and still make them realiable but they don't because profits are more important than reliability. All manufacturers are guilty of this and the consumer is being sold a bill of goods with this energy effiecency bull.

[JWWebster]

Get that robot a bucket of water teach it to wash that towel in 20 different motions.

[john63]

No.

Get that robot to FOLD the laundry---and then all resistance to technology ceases:)

Oops--AJ beat me to it...

[john63]

All this in the name of energy efficiency but where is there really energy savings when appliances last less then 10 years. They don't take into consideration how much energy it takes to scrap a dead appliance and build a new one. You can have features and still make them realiable but they don't because profits are more important than reliability. All manufacturers are guilty of this and the consumer is being sold a bill of goods with this energy effiecency bull.

Let's NOT forget the federal gov't ladies & gentlemen.
I'm old enough to remember when the DOE was created (1977)as an all-new federal agency that was given sweeping power to enact energy policy.
When they say "JUMP" everyone must ask: "How High?"
If you fail to do so--it's your own funeral.