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Kenmore Top-Load VM Washer with Stuck Impeller
« on: October 04, 2014, 03:44:41 PM »

I'm trying to remove the Impeller (aka wash plate) from a Top-Load Vertical Modular Washer and it won't budge (seems to be stuck onto drive shaft).
I cannot pull up on the Basket to free Impeller since the basket is held on with a spanner nut.

Does anyone have any knowledge on how to free the Impeller from the Drive Shaft (I don't mind if I have to break the Impeller if needed).
« Last Edit: October 04, 2014, 03:46:42 PM by rockinrobin »

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Re: Kenmore Top-Load VM Washer with Stuck Impeller
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2014, 04:24:24 PM »
Well I got the Impeller out by making a hook out of a wire hanger to grab the impeller holes and pull up.
However, I cannot remove the 6 phillip screws from basket driven hub without stripping them due to corrosion build up from powder detergent.
Therefore, can I remove the Basket without removing the screws from Drive Hub?

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Re: Kenmore Top-Load VM Washer with Stuck Impeller
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2014, 05:29:01 PM »
I was trying to remove the Gearcase before scrapping this Washer but looks like it's not going to happen due to the drive hub phillip screws are stripping easily even using a special driver tool for stripped screws.
This VMW Unit is a big piece of garbage, shame on Whirlpool.  They should go back to the direct drive top-load washer that was produced for 25 years.

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Re: Kenmore Top-Load VM Washer with Stuck Impeller
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2014, 06:33:55 PM »
I miss the "dependable drive Maytag" There are rumors floating around that Speed Queen is getting too much of Whirlpools money and they might bring it back. Rumors or maybe just wishful thinking. And yes I even miss the direct drive as well.

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Re: Kenmore Top-Load VM Washer with Stuck Impeller
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2014, 06:55:29 PM »

  You should be able to remove the basket by just loosening the spanner nut.  You shouldn't have to remove the basket drive hub.

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Re: Kenmore Top-Load VM Washer with Stuck Impeller
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2014, 07:27:26 PM »

  You should be able to remove the basket by just loosening the spanner nut.  You shouldn't have to remove the basket drive hub.

Eric
This is a VMW Unit (Service Manual p/n W10329932 see pages 54-56).
I tried to lift up on basket without removing Drive Hub but it wouldn't budge.
I tried removing Gearcase without removing basket but it wouldn't budge either since you to remove the Drive Block that's located underneath the drive hub.

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Re: Kenmore Top-Load VM Washer with Stuck Impeller
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2014, 07:35:20 PM »
  Yes, I know it's a VMW and I have the service manual but I also have a training video that shows removal of the basket and all they did was loosen the spanner nut after removing the impeller.

Eric
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Re: Kenmore Top-Load VM Washer with Stuck Impeller
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2014, 07:43:18 PM »

  Yes, I know it's a VMW and I have the service manual but I also have a training video that shows removal of the basket and all they did was loosen the spanner nut.

Eric
Good to know (I misunderstood the service manual regarding the drive hub).
When my roommate returns home tomorrow, I'll get him to help me remove the Basket since it must be frozen on the drive shaft.
Thank You!

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Re: Kenmore Top-Load VM Washer with Stuck Impeller
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2014, 11:49:48 AM »

  You should be able to remove the basket by just loosening the spanner nut.  You shouldn't have to remove the basket drive hub.

Eric

If the spanner was properly tightened it crimps the drive block against the shaft. according to Whirlpool anytime you pull the basket on these models you have to replace the drive block and hub/spanner. They include new ones with the gearcase, also include one with a new basket. I have had success with drilling out the screw head on stripped ones and then using visegrips to remove the screw stub after pulling the basket out.

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Re: Kenmore Top-Load VM Washer with Stuck Impeller
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2014, 12:06:44 PM »
Basket is frozen to shaft, used PB Blaster around shaft but basket would not release.
Cons about this VMW Unit when Basket is frozen to shaft: While lifting the Basket the Tub lifts up with it and the drive hub phillip screws strip easily.  Whirlpool should use torx or allen screws on the drive hub.

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Re: Kenmore Top-Load VM Washer with Stuck Impeller
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2014, 01:05:00 PM »
The real fix for this design is to scrap it and start building something decent.  :tickedoff:
/grumpy old fart mode off/

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Re: Kenmore Top-Load VM Washer with Stuck Impeller
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2014, 12:36:04 PM »
Problem is that they have different variations on the vertical modular.   Some have impellers,  some have agitators.    And yes,  old stove,  I really miss the dependable maytags,   the direct drive wpl machines,  and even the old GM built Frigidares (just kidding on that one)     Maybe Maytag,  oops I mean Whirlpool,   will bring back the 2 belt dependable design.   Wouldn't that be nice.     Or the direct drive.     Just dreaming.
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