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Title: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: NEHoss24 on June 06, 2010, 04:27:10 PM
help washer shot the bed on Friday and I have disassembled it only to be stumped. Motor is out coupling is good transmission is out. Transmission seems to be leaking oil out the input shaft?    Clutch looks god but never worked on a machine before so that means little to me.

I would like to fix asap please help

Matt

Model lsq9659lw1
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: JWWebster on June 06, 2010, 06:01:09 PM
Take the cover off the tranny and look for a stripped main gear and then remove the main drive gear and look for a smashed spin pawl. Use this MANUAL (http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B5If-wTgYWH5NzEyN2RlNjktZGRkOS00MjQzLWFkNzctOThiMWY4NzZlMmNk&hl=en)
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: NEHoss24 on June 06, 2010, 06:57:22 PM
Ok I did some more investigating and found 3 things;

coupler not broken but when loaded would slip ( slightly worn)
Oil on top of gearcase and  seemed to be oil spray on on gearcase to motor plate.
CLutch was intact but definitely seems to be coated with  gear oil ( fine film)

should top of shaft just above the actual gearcase be wet with oil? I assume not so I am thinking that seal needs replacing and the one under it as well.

I checked the tranny and it seems to work as it should but will disassemble to further inspect.
It does seem smooth and does not seem to hang up.  Is there a seal for the top of the gear case? What type of oil?

JW, I appreciate the quick reply!!
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: JWWebster on June 06, 2010, 08:42:18 PM
Dude just put a new coupling on there being careful not to bind the tranny or motor.
The slightly stripped out coupling I have seen many times. It works good enough to wash but spin it just slips. seen it.
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: NEHoss24 on June 06, 2010, 08:51:31 PM
Ok  will go with the coupling only and report back to you. It's easy enough now to assemble and disassemble.

What is the trick to aligning the clutch to the cam on the basket it looks like it should be 180 degrees from the brake spring?  Is there a trick or tip?

Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: JWWebster on June 06, 2010, 09:16:20 PM
No trick, just make sure they don't hit when you put it back together. The washer will get it in the correct position.
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: NEHoss24 on June 07, 2010, 05:25:33 AM
assembled it going for new coupling this am and also replacing my agitator dogs. They were completely blown out.  I usually get a little pissed about failing equipment but I figure this washer has done about 2500 loads in 7 years for the family and farm so it was about time it needed some tlc.

Hey maybe my wife is right I am growing up LOL ;D
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: NEHoss24 on June 07, 2010, 01:21:04 PM
ok now it spins (drains water) and agitates at the same time after reassembly. Is it me, something I did  or is the tranny shot?

I only replaced the coupler and the agitator cam dog assembly
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: JWWebster on June 07, 2010, 01:43:29 PM
You need to replace the tranny. A pin is sheared away from the drive plate causing agitation and spin simultaneously. Seen it.
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: NEHoss24 on June 07, 2010, 02:17:23 PM
worth it to fix the machine is 7 years old ebay new gearboxes are $105 plus the $50 in parts I already spent. My wife and I are both on the fence as the washer gets used alot but the dryer  is fine.   I hate to spend $150 for parts to have the machine croak. Although what else big could go wrong?  timer? motor? I guess they could  go but who knows. The local guy has a great rep and is selling a whirlpool estate washer for 369   

I will figure it out  with my wife   thanks for all the help

Just found out he has a maytag mah3000 for 349 its a rebuilt model.
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: NEHoss24 on June 07, 2010, 02:34:47 PM
the mah3000aw is a neptune i thought these had problems?  Thoughts on that front loader versus a newer one?
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: NEHoss24 on June 07, 2010, 03:33:08 PM
found a new tranny locally for $135 so that is the route I am going
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: JWWebster on June 07, 2010, 07:17:06 PM
Thats a good idea. We have them in boneyards around here for $40 bucks.
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: JWWebster on June 07, 2010, 07:18:21 PM
I have 2 used ones in my shop you can have how far are you from my house?
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: JWWebster on June 07, 2010, 07:19:59 PM
To get here you go to the end of I65 take a left and take the first exit right. Go 4 blocks. Look for the beer joint. Turn right and find the first fish mounted on the garage. :D
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: NEHoss24 on June 07, 2010, 09:37:09 PM
Sounds like a plan 2000 mile round trip for a 200 part but the beer would be great ;D

Thanks again I  will update once new transmission is installed
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: NEHoss24 on June 09, 2010, 08:09:10 PM
all better just one question how tight should the agitator bolt be? what happens if to tight or to loose?
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: JWWebster on June 09, 2010, 08:38:25 PM
Over tighten it and the bolt will mess up the rubber washer. Just snug it up dude.
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: NEHoss24 on June 09, 2010, 08:57:43 PM
yup ruined the rubber washer alright :tickedoff:   had a rubber washer that worked  perfect to replace it though ;D


Thanks Again, the washer is running, the wife is happy so therefore I  am happy.
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: JWWebster on June 09, 2010, 09:44:50 PM
You can buy the bolt with the rubber washer which is a pretty hefty one fer $4.2o last I looked, which was a long time ago.
Title: Re: whirlpool utlicare 2 wont agitate or spin but will drain water - grinding noise
Post by: NEHoss24 on June 09, 2010, 10:11:38 PM
going to get one tomorrow this was a temp fix so I can tackle the 5 days of laundry pile up