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Title: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Shers on May 25, 2010, 06:00:12 PM
Hi, My Whirlpool Dishwasher is only 3 years old and it just stopped with bit of water still in tub.  I noticed about a month ago that when I used the drying cycle it smelt bit funny so I quit using the drying cycle. Now it just quit and the control panel doesn't lite up just dead. Tried breaker and new outlet and nothing. What could be wrong?
Thanks for your time.

Model DU1145XTPQ7
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: viking351 on May 26, 2010, 07:39:35 PM
check the sump and pump
sounds like something got stuck up there
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Beehive Appliance on May 26, 2010, 09:23:34 PM
If there is no power and no lights on the control panel, there is a thermal fuse mounted on many of the whirlpool dishwasher control panels (computer board inside). This could be blown.
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: schaffersapplian on May 26, 2010, 09:30:27 PM
BI-METAL
Part Number: W10258275 (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM0=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275)

As Beehive suggested, this is a perfect place to check first.   Check the BI-METAL for continuity.  If the BI-METAL is open----> Replace.   

Before making any repair or doing any diagnostics to this machine or any machine, Be sure to disconnect power first.



Thermal Fuse Part # W10258275 (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM0=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275) Thermal Fuse, AP4423189 (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM0=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275)

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Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Shers on May 29, 2010, 11:21:51 AM
OK....hubby now has the contol panel loose, so what does the thermal  fuse look like ?

Thanks for your help
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: AJ on May 29, 2010, 11:30:17 AM
The thermal fuse looks like this.



Thermal Fuse Part # W10258275 (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM0=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275) Thermal Fuse, AP4423189 (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM0=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275)

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Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Shers on May 29, 2010, 11:32:53 AM
we cannot find it???
Here is a picture
Sure thank you
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Shers on May 29, 2010, 11:35:23 AM
Here's the whole picture
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Shers on May 29, 2010, 11:48:43 AM
Are we looking in the correct spot or is it on the base of washer by floor???? Thanks
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Beehive Appliance on May 29, 2010, 11:50:09 AM
The fuse doesn't look like a regular fuse, it is a round disc. I attached a picture with a circle around the fuse. Do you have a multi meter?  If so, disconnect the power to machine, then disconnect the wires to the fuse and test continuity across fuse.
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Shers on May 29, 2010, 11:58:13 AM
Thanks so much. We have a tester but not sure how to use it ????    :embarassed:
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Shers on May 29, 2010, 11:59:26 AM
O hubby just said he got it out
Thanks now to find a new one
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Shers on May 29, 2010, 12:00:24 PM
Could a auto parts store test it for us we live in very very small town
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Beehive Appliance on May 29, 2010, 01:14:17 PM
Check your Private message's
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: jumptrout51 on May 29, 2010, 02:22:34 PM
Everyone learns more when correspondence is in the open vs P.M.
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Beehive Appliance on May 29, 2010, 02:26:55 PM
Sorry, I was telling him to try a fuse workaround only on a temporary basis and figured that shouldn't be on the open forum for others to use and get hurt on my watch.
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Shers on May 29, 2010, 03:26:46 PM
Thanks for all your help Ryan. Finally figured out where it was and got the fuse out.  Hubby is going to test it soon.  I'll post in a bit.  O0
Sher
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: jumptrout51 on May 29, 2010, 05:28:54 PM
Sorry, I was telling him to try a fuse workaround only on a temporary basis and figured that shouldn't be on the open forum for others to use and get hurt on my watch.
This kind of info is allowed,so long as you express the test only usage rather than a fix.
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: JWWebster on May 29, 2010, 05:58:32 PM
BeeManator thank you for contributing to the best appliance repair forum in the www dot world. No need to go all secretive on diagnosing stuff. Run it by one of us if you feel uneasy, so we won't feel left out. Great things are happening in the field of appliance repair. Nothing pissses me off worse than another tech holding back vital info that can help ALL. That is why I am a contributor here. If you feel a person or property could be harmed whilst attempting a repair tell em so. And tell us too. I don't want to burn my dang house down either. Hello.
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Beehive Appliance on May 29, 2010, 09:08:30 PM
I had Sher bypass the fuse temporarily to test the function of the machine. This confirmed that the fuse had blown. If anyone reads this later, please do not do this as a permanent fix. This fuse is blown primarily by temperature. I don't want to hear that someone burned down there home because they bypassed a safety on my account. Anyway Sher the part that you need is a Whirlpool part # W10258275 (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM0=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275). This forum seems to sponsor Repairclinic.com. I personally have not used them. Any repair company should be able to get the part for you. Let me know if you have any problems finding it Sher



Thermal Fuse Part # W10258275 (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM0=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275) Thermal Fuse, AP4423189 (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM0=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-thermal-fuse-item-number-ap4423189.aspx%253Fpn_%253DW10258275)

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Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: AJ on May 29, 2010, 09:30:43 PM
This forum seems to sponsor Repairclinic.com (http://repairclinic.com). I personally have not used them. Any repair company should be able to get the part for you. Let me know if you have any problems finding it Sher

To clear things up a bit. We are affiliated with RepairClinic.com

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Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Shers on May 30, 2010, 12:05:04 AM
I just wanted to say "Thanks" to all the techs that offered support and advice.  This website is a wonderful place for DIY people.   O'yall .... I meant to ask you technicians what makes the thermal fuse go out ?   Could it be like a power surge ?   Just curious.


Many Thanks, Sher :)
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: schaffersapplian on May 30, 2010, 12:30:04 AM
A Thermal fuse can break 2 different ways.

1. A thermal fuse is looking for a specific temperature.  Once that temp. is reached, The fuse blows. The reason for a device like this is to prevent a melt down of a machine.  There could be another problem inside the machine somewhere. 

Or,

2. It blew like a light bulb,  Electrical components only last for so long.  Some light bulbs burn faster then others in homes. Most likely due to poor contacts in the socket that the bulb plugs into. Same goes for every other electrical component.

Lastly, the kit with the Bi-Metal comes with a wire harness.  USE IT!  If you take the short cut installing it, you may be changing that little bugger out again very soon.  Whirlpool has had issues with the original wire harness and the way it contacted the thermal fuse.
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: Shers on June 04, 2010, 03:14:54 PM
Just a note to all involved ..... received part with harness and hubby installed.  I'm back in business.  HIP HIP HORRAY !!!
You guys are wonderful.  Many Many Thanks !
 O0

Sher
Title: Re: Dishwasher heat element was white and sorta smelled bad and now just stopped
Post by: AJ on June 04, 2010, 03:31:33 PM
Glad to hear that you got it repaired. Thanks for the update.