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Title: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: nedserious on September 19, 2009, 04:36:58 PM
Hello, I have a Whirlpool washer (LSR7233EQ0) which is about 12 years old ( i think around 1997 is when I got it).  Today it filled with water, agitated but will not drain.  When I turn the knob to rinse so it can drain, i hear a "humming / buzzing" sound and nothing drains, etc.

I thought perhaps it was a one time thing, but I then set it back to agitate, and then checked in later, and the water is still in there and turning the knob to drain again, only makes the humming sound and nothing happens.  

I researched some sites and drained the water from the back, then tilted it forward and found the pump and hoses and motor, etc.  I removed the clamps and checked both the inlet and the outlet hoses.  Both were clear and not obstructed. I put my finger in the pump and was able to turn the wheel inside the pump with my finger just fine.  Nothing is obstructing the inside of the pump.  I then unclamped the pump, and turned the motor by hand by turning the bolt looking thing that sticks out of the motor and into the pump.  That turned freely as well.  

Any thoughts as to what to try next?  Thank you very much in advance.
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: Mr. Fix-It on September 19, 2009, 04:44:43 PM
Check the lid switch it's probably broken.
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: nedserious on September 19, 2009, 07:24:06 PM
I put the washer back together, but unscrewed the lid switch and it looks fine physically and the lever or whatever is called clicks properly when pushed down.  I then started up the washer and turned it to the "rinse" cycle and it "buzzzzzzzz/hummmmmms" again.  I'm holding the lid switch in my hand at this point to make sure that its fully depressed and I can feel it getting very warm.  I then did something that i know very little about, but, i have a multitester and i tested it by setting it to "OHM X1K" and then put each probe into one of the wiring harness connections and it reads "infinity" and then when i depress the switch, the meter moves to 2.5.  I tried to get the plastic switch part open to test it there, but couldn't.

thoughts?  and thanks very much.  i'm 3 for 3 over the years in fixing the washer, even though i really don't know much about it.  but sites and help like this almost always works.  i'd hate to stop that streak.  Thank you for any responses.
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: JWWebster on September 19, 2009, 07:27:16 PM
Some repair pix my brother:
 REPAIR PIX (http://sites.google.com/site/sublimeappliancerepair/washer-will-not-spin)
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: nedserious on September 19, 2009, 08:53:30 PM
Thank you.  The lid switch seems to be in tact and not broken. I'm not sure if 2.5 is a normal reading for it or not.  I think I'll try and jump it tomorrow and maybe that will let me know for sure if it's the lid switch or not.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: JWWebster on September 19, 2009, 09:29:58 PM
Repair Manual (http://appliancejunk.com/directdrivemanual.pdf)
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: whirlpooltech on September 19, 2009, 10:27:42 PM
nedserious are you from Uganda?
You have the Uganda flag showing.
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: nedserious on September 20, 2009, 07:13:35 AM
I didn't think I was from Uganda but I am willing to try.  My new official language is Luganda (although I do know some Swahili too), I live in the Nile basin, I love to play cricket and football (soccer to you), and despite the global downturn and regional instability in the world recently, in 2008, my country reported 7% growth.  "Viva Uganda!!"  (ok, I must admit I need to learn my country's slogan still).   O0
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain - I jumped the lid switch, still buzzing
Post by: nedserious on September 20, 2009, 10:06:28 AM
Ok, i got a piece of wire and jumped the lid switch and the washer still "bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzes" and nothing happens when in spin/rinse mode.     :(

What are some next things to try???

Thanks.
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: JWWebster on September 20, 2009, 12:58:48 PM
Take the pump off and see if a item of clothing is in there.
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: nedserious on September 20, 2009, 01:30:27 PM
Thanks, I did take off the hoses and checked the pump, it's clear....

"I removed the clamps and checked both the inlet and the outlet hoses.  Both were clear and not obstructed. I put my finger in the pump and was able to turn the wheel inside the pump with my finger just fine.  Nothing is obstructing the inside of the pump.  I then unclamped the pump, and turned the motor by hand by turning the bolt looking thing that sticks out of the motor and into the pump.  That turned freely as well."

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next steps???  thoughts???  thanks.
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: JWWebster on September 20, 2009, 05:06:33 PM
remove the motor and try running it alone to see if it is weak
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: RegUS_PatOff on September 20, 2009, 05:16:56 PM
If it also buzzes when set to Spin, it may be the Timer Contacts (reverses the Motor's Start Windings)

Check the voltage from

Blue to White = 120v AC

Black to Yellow = 120v AC

LSR7233EQ0 Wiring Diagram (http://www.servicematters.com/docs/wiring/Wiring%20Sheet%20-%203949340.pdf)
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: tidebatt1 on September 20, 2009, 08:26:33 PM
I have experienced this problem, look through this topic and I'm sure you will find the same to be occurring. "Whirlpool Washer agitates and spins when it wants to!" (http://appliancejunk.com/forums/index.php?topic=313.0) topic. I ultimately had to replace the neutral drain kit on mine, and it helped for a little while. Then suddenly started acting up again. Now I can only run the machine on a small load setting. That's okay in my situation though, I only use it for shop rags now. I replaced it, my wife couldn't wait.
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: JWWebster on September 20, 2009, 09:22:31 PM
Dangit Tidebatt I feel dat pain.
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: nedserious on September 21, 2009, 10:27:13 AM
It does indeed "buzzzzzzzzz" when i set it to SPIN.

Regarding the motor and checking the wiring voltage, that's foreign to me, so i'll have to learn how to use the multitester better to do so, and taking the transmission apart to get at the "neutral drain kit" seems a bit scary, but then again, so does the idea of paying $400 or so for a new washer.

thank you for everyone's help.
Title: Re: Washer Won't Drain
Post by: JWWebster on September 21, 2009, 12:35:41 PM
Ain't wiring to do. Just a quick connect. The motor is easy to replace