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Title: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on February 18, 2009, 01:56:25 PM
Hello All, I am having some issues with my dryer and was hoping someone could help me. I turn on my dryer to use and it start up fine, with the exception it's a little louder than usual. The heating element is heating and the dryer is rotating. After 2-3 min the dryer stops and I can not turn it on again for about 20-40 min. I have opened it, cleaned it and made sure nothing was stuck in it. Can some one please help?

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Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Mr. Fix-It on February 18, 2009, 02:18:10 PM
Sounds like your hi-limit thermostat is tripping. This is usually caused by lint blockage in the dryer or your vent. Run the dryer with the vent detached if it still shuts down the blockage is in the dryer if not it is your vent.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: whirlpooltech on February 18, 2009, 02:48:27 PM
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Sounds like your hi-limit thermostat is tripping.

What!?

They said,

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After 2-3 min the dryer stops and I can not turn it on again for about 20-40 min.

If it was a limit thermostat the dryer would stop running and not restart until a new limit thermostat was put in.

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I turn on my dryer to use and it start up fine, with the exception it's a little louder than usual.

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After 2-3 min the dryer stops and I can not turn it on again for about 20-40 min.

This leads me to believe you have a bad motor.
Whirlpool factory Part Number: 279827

The motor also has a overload built into it.
If the motor gets to hot the overload kills the power to the motor until the motor cools off. Once the motor cools off the overload resets itself so the motor will have power again.





Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Mr. Fix-It on February 18, 2009, 02:59:16 PM
Wait now correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the hi-limit thermostat reset after it cools down (the one next to the coils)? I know the thermal cut out (up higher on the cannister) has to be replaced if it trips. You may have something though about the motor especially if it was making wierd noises. I guess you can test this by running the dryer with no heat and if it shuts down the it's the motor if not it should be the hi-limit.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: whirlpooltech on February 18, 2009, 03:09:31 PM
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Wait now correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the hi-limit thermostat reset after it cools down (the one next to the coils)?

Yes, you are correct.

I was thinking of the other limit thermostat as I have never seen a problem with the one on the heating element.

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I guess you can test this by running the dryer with no heat and if it shuts down the it's the motor

Good idea.

Try running it on air dry and let us know what you find.

Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Mr. Fix-It on February 18, 2009, 03:12:26 PM
It probably is the motor if it shuts down in 2-3 minutes.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on February 18, 2009, 04:44:55 PM
The motor has a heat protection overload. If it luggs down because of a bad wheel or too much laundry it will quit. How hard is it to turn the drum?
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: whirlpooltech on February 18, 2009, 05:01:03 PM
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If it luggs down because of a bad wheel or too much laundry it will quit.

Too much laundry? I doubt that would cause this problem.

Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on February 18, 2009, 05:48:23 PM
Thank you all for writing back... I have removed the heating element and yes after turning it on the unit ran for 2 min and shut down again. So, you think I may need a new motor? Some one told me I may need a new Thermal fuse and some one else said a thermal cutoff kit... Thanks for your help :D
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on February 18, 2009, 06:14:46 PM
OK, this is how our conversation went... If he doesn't know what he is talking about please help... THANKS  :)

ME: About two weeks ago when I was using my whirlpool dryer (ser num: LER7646JQ0) it sudenly stopped spinning. I opened it up completely, cleaned out all of the lint in it but can't see what the problem is. After reading a couple of other inquiries I think it may be a temp gage. What do you think?

HIM: I would check the belt and the motor. The temp gauge has to do with the heating of the system. You can locate both of those at the back of the unit

ME: Thank you for your responce... I have the unit open and the belt looks fine. It starts up fine, it heats and it spinnes, and after a few min it stops. Then I can not restart it for about 30 - 60 min. Do you still think it may be the motor? If it was the temp gage, would the temp gage affect the heating and spinning?

HIM: No, now it sounds more like it goes into lock out which means that it is a limit switch located on the dryer vent

ME: How can I fix a " Lock out"?

HIM: It is a silver quater sized looking piece. two screws holding itt on mounted on the hard metal pipe of the dryer vent in the back

ME: Does it need to be replaced?

HIM: Yes you cannot repair the part it needs to be replaced. like 5 dollars

ME: Thanks for the help, I will try to replace it this weekend and I'll let ya know if it fixed the problem. Thanks again.
Wendy

HIM: You are welcome have a great week

ME: Hello, Happy Wednesday! You were helping me with my problem… I Still need help… LOL
Well, What is it actually name of the part? I have been looking for part numbers but couldn't find anything. What does it look like? You said it’s located in the back of the dryer (on the lint vent). Can you please help!!! I'm about to go old school and hand a bunch of wet cloths all around my house...LOL
Thanks

HIM: The limit switch is located on the metal part of the dryer vent.
Behind the back plate. It may be called the high limit switch. Or a Trip switch.

ME: Hey, I removed the heating element to test your theory but it still cut off in 2 min... Now what do you think?
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HIM: Did you jump the wires together? If you did and it still shut off then it would seem to be a relay or a computer problem. 99.9% of the time it is that sensor that goes bad and causes everything to shut down. That is why I said start there

Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: whirlpooltech on February 18, 2009, 06:49:38 PM
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I have removed the heating element and yes after turning it on the unit ran for 2 min and shut down again. So, you think I may need a new motor?

Yes

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Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: jumptrout51 on February 18, 2009, 07:04:20 PM
New motor.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on February 18, 2009, 09:59:18 PM
It is worth it to replace the motor. That is the heart of the dryer. Ain't much else in there.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on February 20, 2009, 04:57:14 PM
Thank you all for your advice I guess I'm getting me a new motor...LOL  Aight, well I live in Oklahoma city, Does any one know a good place I can get a new motor for a good price maybe even a military discount?
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: jumptrout51 on February 20, 2009, 05:04:31 PM
Not only best price, If these suggestions are wrong you can return the motor.
I am certain the suggestions are right however.

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Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on February 26, 2009, 04:11:38 PM
Hello All, I just got my new motor and can't figure out where to open to replace it. Can any one shed some light? :D
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Repair-man on February 26, 2009, 06:25:25 PM
Here's a little ray of sunshine...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuP7o10SOG8
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on February 26, 2009, 09:01:39 PM
Thanks, I got it. Now I am trying to remove the motor from the motor shaft and I can't. The motor shaft is plastic and is breaking. How do I remove it?
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: jayman73 on February 26, 2009, 09:26:38 PM
Thanks, I got it. Now I am trying to remove the motor from the motor shaft and I can't. The motor shaft is plastic and is breaking. How do I remove it?
do you mean blower wheel? if so should be left hand thread ( had to bust some of them off before too
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on February 26, 2009, 10:23:39 PM
do you mean blower wheel? if so should be left hand thread ( had to bust some of them off before too
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Yea, I had to bust it off... Now that I have done that. I will need a new blower fan (wheel). Once I have that will I need anything else to put my dryer back together again?

Thanks a lot for the help I really appreciate it... ;D
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: jayman73 on February 27, 2009, 06:56:49 AM
do you mean blower wheel? if so should be left hand thread ( had to bust some of them off before too

Yea, I had to bust it off... Now that I have done that. I will need a new blower fan (wheel). Once I have that will I need anything else to put my dryer back together again?

Thanks a lot for the help I really appreciate it... ;D

[/quote]should be fine
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on February 27, 2009, 11:00:42 AM
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Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on February 28, 2009, 02:35:45 PM
Thanks,
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on February 28, 2009, 02:45:23 PM
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Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on February 28, 2009, 02:48:50 PM
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Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on February 28, 2009, 03:03:46 PM
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Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on February 28, 2009, 04:48:44 PM
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Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on March 01, 2009, 09:52:20 AM
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Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on March 01, 2009, 09:59:40 AM
Hey guys, My old motor has colored wires on it. The new one does not but the wires look like they are in the same locations. Do I have to do anything to the new motor or is it ready to go in as is?

Thanks for the Help...
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on March 01, 2009, 12:25:06 PM
look at the motor switch it has numbers on it each wire is numbered also. If you have a quick connect all yas gots ta do is plug it in :D
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on March 02, 2009, 04:09:21 PM
Yah!!!    :2funny:  My dryer is fixed! Thank to all of you for your help. I fixed my dryer.

Q: If I'm not happy about the amount of heat my dryer is putting out should I replace the temp gage? If so, do I replace one or both of them?
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: jumptrout51 on March 02, 2009, 04:42:35 PM
First check the temperature at the rear exhaust vent.
Remove the vent,
Run the dryer on Hi heat several minutes.
No laundry in the dryer.
If the temp is 135 to 160 degrees you are fine.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on March 02, 2009, 05:42:40 PM
This may be a stupid question but How do I check the temp, with a thermometer? LOL   I don't see a temp sensor...
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Repair-man on March 02, 2009, 06:11:08 PM
Not a stupid question, just one more fact you do not know yet...
We use a digital multimeter with a temperature probe. You cannot use a "thermometer".
 An air conditioning or appliance dealer nearby has temp meters for sale.


Your vent situation is likely the only thing standing in your way to good drying results. Be sure you don't have that crappy foil vent hose on back, or you are asking for.... no begging for, failure later on. (Notice that little warning sticker on back?)
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on May 15, 2010, 11:07:57 AM
Hello, you guys were sooo helpful last time I decided to come back for more... ;) I have whirlpool dryer model # LER7646JQ0 (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM0=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros.com%252Fpartsearch%252Fmodel.aspx%253Fmodel_id%253D242005&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252Fpartsearch%252Fmodel.aspx%253Fmodel_id%253D242005). My dryer works great with one exception, it has no heat. I checked the heating element and all of the coils are intact. I then replaced the thermostat and thermal fuse (both located on the dryer vent) and still NO HEAT. I then replaced the thermal cutoff and the hi limit thermostat (part # AP3094244 (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM0=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-dryer-thermal-cut-off-kit-item-number-ap3094244.aspx&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-dryer-thermal-cut-off-kit-item-number-ap3094244.aspx)).
I have a digital multimeter. My electrical outlet reads 243vac. On the washer, one wire read 120vac and the other reads 121vac. I'm not sure how exactly to check each component and what are they supposed to read?

Thanks in advance for your help
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on May 15, 2010, 12:53:27 PM
All seven of these things need to have continuity. Unplug the dryer and remove a wire from each one. Check for an open component. If all are ok then you have a bad timer. Click on pics to enlarge
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on May 15, 2010, 01:18:14 PM
All seven of these things need to have continuity. Unplug the dryer and remove a wire from each one. Check for an open component. If all are ok then you have a bad timer. Click on pics to enlarge

Do I unplug every wire from each component? How do I check for an open component? How should I place my multimeter? What should my multimeter read?
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on May 15, 2010, 04:00:34 PM
Unplug the dryer before attempting any diagnostics.
Touch your 2 leads together on your ohm meter and turn the dial till you hear a beep.
The beep means a complete circuit is being made. Then check each thing with at least one wire off so that you won't get a false reading. Each component should give a nice beep if good except for the 2 small legs on top of the control thermostat which needs a very sensitive meter to measure resistance and is not usually the problem. We are looking for open components in the high amp carrying heat load wiring. Anything in that loop that is bad causes a no heat situation. When you set the timer for Cotton or high heat the power comes through the timer leg marked RH down to number 1 which is a 300 degree limit, then to number 3 which is a 250f limit then the element number 4 then to number 6 which is the control thermostat. Number 7 on the picture is the bias heater. They use a bias heater to warm the limit up so that it will shut down faster for perm press and knits. It would NOT be the reason you don't have heat so their is no need to check it since it takes a very sensitive meter to check it anyway. By the way number 5 is the fuse. If it was open the dryer would not run, your dryer runs so no need to check it. Click pic to enlarge
When number 1 fails that means number 3 is bad too. A number 1 failure is a direct result of a blocked vent. I am leaning towards a bad timer on this particular case. To check the timer attach one lead to the RH terminal Check for continuity between that point and any other leg on the timer. Turn the knob and keep checking. If you cannot get a beep then you know the timer innards either need filing down or a timer replacement.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on May 17, 2010, 02:23:30 PM
Touch your 2 leads together on your ohm meter and turn the dial till you hear a beep.

My multimeter doesn't beep...

Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on May 17, 2010, 05:04:09 PM
The 3rd click to the right puts you in the ohms section.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: jumptrout51 on May 17, 2010, 06:59:16 PM
The 8th click to the right puts you where it beeps.The beep tells you the part has a chance of working.
The ohms reading is specific based on published ohm readings for parts within a plus/minus parameter,and is more accurate.
Your ohms setting does not beep.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on May 17, 2010, 07:09:19 PM
Jumpy on the diode symbol in the ohms section her meter will have an audible beep?
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: jumptrout51 on May 18, 2010, 07:06:10 AM
I thought that is where I directed her.
You know....the little pointy arrow.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on May 19, 2010, 01:42:44 PM
Hey guys, I fuigured out my multimeter. When the cuircuit is open my meter reads 1.
when the cuircuit is closed my meter reads -.000 pr some other number depending on
the part.

I have checked the heating element, the thermostate , the thermal fuse  and the hi-limit. All check good.
I am going to check the wires in the harness. I will update you when I get done.

Thanks for ALL your help
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on May 29, 2010, 05:49:58 PM
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you...

OK, I checked every wire and I didn't get a reading from this wire:
(Please look at the Picture)
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on May 29, 2010, 05:57:58 PM
I follow the wire and find heatshrink with a big rectangular pice under it
(Please look at picture:D)
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on May 29, 2010, 06:03:33 PM
On the other end of the heatshrink, the wire is no longer white with black stripe, I follow the now orange wire and it leads to the heating element.

Since I am getting no reading from this wire, What do I do? Can I cut open the heatshrink and fix it? Can I use any wire to fix it?


Thanks you for ALL your help!!!   ;D
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on May 29, 2010, 06:08:45 PM
I follow the wire and find heatshrink with a big rectangular pice under it
(Please look at picture:D)

Wrong picture...
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: RegUS_PatOff on May 29, 2010, 09:04:17 PM
NO ...
that a 5000 OHM Resistor for the Timer Motor
leave it alone ...

With the Dryer Cycle set for no heat

you chould have 120v AC from each side of each of these devices when measured to chassis (a good ground)

Thermal CutOff
Operating Thermostat  Red/White & Red wires
Hi-Limit Thermostat
Heating Element
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on May 29, 2010, 10:47:22 PM
Please explain...  :embarassed:
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: RegUS_PatOff on June 01, 2010, 09:32:50 PM
Do you have a voltmeter ?

With the Dryer Cycle set for no heat

you should have 120v AC measured from each side of each of these devices to chassis (a good ground)

Thermal CutOff
Operating Thermostat  Red/White & Red wires
Hi-Limit Thermostat
Heating Element
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on June 03, 2010, 04:48:42 PM
Yes I do. Okay here is what I have....
Wall outlet is putting out 240

Red wire (from plug) to Motor reads 120
      From Motor to heating element 120
      From heating element to high-limit thermostat 120
      From high-limit thermostat to thermostat 120
      From Thermostat to thermal cut-off 120
      From Thermal cut-off to Timer 120

Black wire (from plug)  is spliced. From plug to Timer 120
      From plug to light 120
     
Timer Wires  (from left to right)
      purple wire 1 from timer to tempgage 000
      purple wire 2 from timer to thermostat 000
      orange wire, thas been spliced, blue wire to Thermal fuse 000
      White wire with black stripe, to OHM Resistor, orange wire to high-limit thermostat 120
      Black wire from timer to (silver part) timer 120
      White wire to wrinkle shield 000
      Blue wire from timer to push to start 120
      Yellow wire with black stripe from timer to wrinkle shield 000
      Blue wire from timer to Tempature control 120
      White wire from timer to motor 000
      Black wire to timer from plug 120
      Brown wire from timer, to splice, blue wire to thermostate 000
      Red wire to timer from thermostat 120
      Black wire from timer (under silver part) to timer 000

Push to start
      Pink wire with black stript, to splice, to thermostat 000

Motor
      Black wire from motor to Adjustable buzzer kit 000
      Black wire from Adjustable buzzer kit to push to start 000




           
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on June 03, 2010, 06:55:04 PM
Wendy you have a bad breaker. You keep posting 120 volts. Heat circuit in electric dryers needs 240. Click pic to enlarge.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on June 03, 2010, 07:22:24 PM
Mr. JW

 I know the dryer need 240 to work. It gets 120 from the red wire and 120 from the black one for a
total of 240 vac. I am geting the 120 from the red side but I am losing it in the black side.
I don't see a breaker in my parts list. Are you sure this dryer has a breaker? Do you have a part
number?
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on June 03, 2010, 07:40:23 PM
Wendy is your meter reading 240 at the wall outlet? The circuit breaker is in the house in the electrical box containing all those necessary to shut down various circuits in the hose. They wire several different circuits into the house in case a breaker kills power to a circuit lights will still be in other parts of the house. Your dryer has a dedicated 30 amp circuit. The dryer itself turns via a 120 volt motor that is connected on the neutral and the black side of the dryer. The heater is a 5000 watt 240 volt type that uses L1 AND L2 If one side of that breaker is bad the dryer will run but not heat. If ALL of the components are good and the timer is ok then you my friend have an electrical problem.
Sears dude: That will be $95 please :D
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on June 03, 2010, 07:54:20 PM
Yes, my wall outlet is reading 240.
Ok, how do i know if the timer is the problem. Cause if you read all the measurments I posted all of the 000 reading are going through the timer.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: RegUS_PatOff on June 03, 2010, 08:39:27 PM
With the Dryer Cycle set for no heat
you should have 120v AC measured from each side of each of these devices to chassis (a good ground)

Thermal CutOff
Operating Thermostat  Red/White & Red wires
Hi-Limit Thermostat
Heating Element

chassis (ground) is the metal frame of the Dryer
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on June 07, 2010, 05:13:57 PM
I set my Timer to Fluff Air and the Temp gage to low delicate. (I don't have a no heat)

I had differant readings (on some from black side)

Wall outlet is putting out 240

Red wire (from plug) to Motor reads 120
      From Motor to heating element 120
      From heating element to high-limit thermostat 120
      From high-limit thermostat to thermostat 120
      From Thermostat to thermal cut-off 120
      From Thermal cut-off to Timer 120

Black wire (from plug)  is spliced. From plug to Timer 120
      From plug to light 120
     
Timer Wires  (from left to right)
      purple wire 1 from timer to tempgage 120
      purple wire 2 from timer to thermostat 120
      orange wire, thas been spliced, blue wire to Thermal fuse 000
      White wire with black stripe, to OHM Resistor, orange wire to high-limit thermostat 120
      Black wire from timer to (silver part) timer 120
      White wire to wrinkle shield 000
      Blue wire from timer to push to start 120
      Yellow wire with black stripe from timer to wrinkle shield 000
      Blue wire from timer to Tempature control 120
      White wire from timer to motor 000
      Black wire to timer from plug 120
      Brown wire from timer, to splice, blue wire to thermostate 000
      Red wire to timer from thermostat 120
      Black wire from timer (under silver part) to timer 000


One of the purple wires on the thermostat is reading 000. Before I was getting 000 from both of the purple wires.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: RegUS_PatOff on June 07, 2010, 05:47:39 PM
With the Dryer Cycle set for no heat
you should have 120v AC measured from each side of each of these devices to chassis (a good ground)

Thermal CutOff
Operating Thermostat  Red/White & Red wires
Hi-Limit Thermostat
Heating Element

one side of Operating Thermostat, Red/White wire to chassis = ?
other side of Operating Thermostat, Red Wire to chassis = ?

one side of Hi-Limit Thermostat, to chassis = ?
other side of Hi-Limit Thermostat, to chassis = ?

one side of Heating Element, to chassis = ?
other side of Heating Element, to chassis = ?
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on June 07, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
one side of Operating Thermostat, Red/White wire to chassis = 120
other side of Operating Thermostat, Red Wire to chassis = 120
one side of Operating Thermostat, purple wire to chassis = 120
other side of Operating Thermostat, purple to chassis = 000

one side of Hi-Limit Thermostat, to chassis = 120
other side of Hi-Limit Thermostat, to chassis =120

one side of Heating Element, to chassis = 120
other side of Heating Element, to chassis = 120
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: RegUS_PatOff on June 07, 2010, 06:49:29 PM
one side of Operating Thermostat, Red/White wire to chassis = 120
other side of Operating Thermostat, Red Wire to chassis = 120

one side of Hi-Limit Thermostat, to chassis = 120
other side of Hi-Limit Thermostat, to chassis =120

one side of Heating Element, to chassis = 120
other side of Heating Element, to chassis = 120
OK, if those measurments were made in the Air-Fluff Cycle, that would indicate a bad Timer.

NOW check those voltages with the Dryer Timer set to the Regular heat Cycle, but not started,
If there's not 120v anywhere, that would confirm a bad Timer.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on June 07, 2010, 07:03:28 PM
leave wires connected?
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: RegUS_PatOff on June 07, 2010, 07:09:38 PM
yes
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on June 07, 2010, 07:12:42 PM
Timer set to Heavy Dry
Temp set to High/Heavy

I did not press the Start button

I still get 120 from the top black wire
             120 from both blue wires
       and 120 from the lower left hand (when looking at it) black wire

All other wires on the Timer read 000
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: RegUS_PatOff on June 07, 2010, 07:53:33 PM
one side of Operating Thermostat, Red/White wire to chassis = 120
other side of Operating Thermostat, Red Wire to chassis = 120

one side of Hi-Limit Thermostat, to chassis = 120
other side of Hi-Limit Thermostat, to chassis =120

one side of Heating Element, to chassis = 120
other side of Heating Element, to chassis = 120
OK, if those measurments were made in the Air-Fluff Cycle, that would indicate a bad Timer.

NOW check those voltages with the Dryer Timer set to the Regular heat Cycle, but not started,
If there's not 120v anywhere, that would confirm a bad Timer.


NOW check THOSE voltages:

one side of Operating Thermostat, Red/White wire to chassis = ?
other side of Operating Thermostat, Red Wire to chassis =  ?

one side of Hi-Limit Thermostat, to chassis = ?
other side of Hi-Limit Thermostat, to chassis = ?

one side of Heating Element, to chassis = ?
other side of Heating Element, to chassis =  ?


I GIVE UP  ...
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on June 07, 2010, 08:22:07 PM
Do I check them with the timer on heat?
Or just plegged in?
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on June 07, 2010, 08:37:54 PM
show some pictures wendy. we is confused.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on June 07, 2010, 08:52:36 PM
*giggle* pictures of what exactly JW.

Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on June 07, 2010, 09:03:29 PM
With the Timer set to heavt dry and the Temp gage set to high/heavy.

I do not press the start

one side of Operating Thermostat, Red/White wire to chassis = 000
other side of Operating Thermostat, Red Wire to chassis = 000
one side of Operating Thermostat, purple wire to chassis = 000
other side of Operating Thermostat, purple to chassis = 000

one side of Hi-Limit Thermostat, to chassis = 000
other side of Hi-Limit Thermostat, to chassis = 000

one side of Heating Element, to chassis = 000
other side of Heating Element, to chassis = 000
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on June 07, 2010, 09:07:42 PM
You ain't gonna get no readings because the centifugal switch inside the motor has to be tripped and that ain't gonna happen till that puppy takes off.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on June 07, 2010, 09:13:16 PM
More wisdom from the swamp. For safety reasons manufacturers have cleverly installed a cent switch on the end of the motor. They want the heater element to be on ONLY if the motor is running which is blowing the fan and tumbling the clothes. You don't want heat if the motor ain't running(not good) If the fan ain't blowing the heat builds rapidly and the limits kick in killing power to the element.
Sometimes the heat builds faster than the bi-metal can react, in that case a fuse melts killing everything on electric models but killing only the gas in gas dryers.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on June 07, 2010, 09:30:27 PM
Thanks you guys... You all are really great help... Sorry if I get you frustrated. I'm still learning.
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on June 09, 2010, 11:32:39 AM
 YAY!!!  We fixed it. I ordered and replayced the timer.

 I GOT HEAT!!!!

Thank you ALL for your Help

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Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: Wendy.Cartwright on June 09, 2010, 11:34:28 AM
replaced
Title: Re: WHIRLPOOL DRYER- HELP!!!
Post by: JWWebster on June 09, 2010, 01:28:59 PM
Hay now  O0 O0 O0