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Title: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: AJ on December 04, 2007, 09:48:11 PM
In this guide we use a Whirlpool GHW9100LW0 (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM0=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros.com%252Fpartsearch%252Fmodel.aspx%253Fmodel_id%253D265540&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252Fpartsearch%252Fmodel.aspx%253Fmodel_id%253D265540) Duet washer to show you how to replace the bellow.

This is the main seal between the front bulkhead and the outer tub.

This is a easy repair and should take about a half hour to a hour if you have never installed one before.



Whirlpool Duet Front Load Washer Bellow Tub Door Seal Part # 8181850



**Disconnect the power to the washer before you start any repairs**

Remove the three screws on the back of the washer that hold the top on. Remove the top and set it aside.

Remove the soap dispensor and remove the screw inside the hole, see "B" in the photo.

(http://appliancejunk.com/forums/gallery/1_04_12_07_7_40_33_5.jpg)
Now you will need to remove the control panel. Once the screw behind the soap despensor has been removed it just unclips at the top. You may need to use a flate blade screwdrive to help you remove it.


(http://appliancejunk.com/forums/gallery/1_04_12_07_7_40_33_4.jpg)
Now set the control panel on top of the washer.

(http://appliancejunk.com/forums/gallery/1_04_12_07_7_40_33_3.jpg)
Open the washer door. Locate the cable spring as shown in the photo. Remove the cable.


(http://appliancejunk.com/forums/gallery/1_04_12_07_7_40_32_2.jpg)

Next you will have to remove the three (1,2,3) door switch screws.
Then remove the bottom panel. It is held on with three (A) screws on the bottom of the washer.


(http://appliancejunk.com/forums/gallery/1_04_12_07_7_39_31_4.jpg)
Peel the font of the bellows off of the washer and fold it into the tub.
Next close the door and remove the four screws (one at each corner, B) that hold the bulkhead on.


(http://appliancejunk.com/forums/gallery/1_04_12_07_7_39_31_2.jpg)
Once you have the buldhead removed all that is left to do is remove the rear bellow clamp.

(http://appliancejunk.com/forums/gallery/1_04_12_07_7_40_32_1.jpg)

Once you have the rear bellow clamp removed you will be able to easily remove the old bellow.

Replace the old bellow with the new one and put the washer back together.



Whirlpool Duet Front Load Washer Bellow Tub Door Seal Part # 8181850
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: Zero.Geez on June 13, 2010, 05:01:08 AM
We used these instructions yesterday and they worked like a charm!  Can't thank you enough for posting it and giving us the confidence to try to fix the washer.  O0
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: schaffersapplian on June 13, 2010, 08:21:42 AM
I recommend using a Sharpie marker to mark the position of the inner bellow clamp before removing it.    You DO NOT want to over tighten that clamp.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: jason43050 on April 24, 2011, 09:20:41 PM
I recommend using a Sharpie marker to mark the position of the inner bellow clamp before removing it.    You DO NOT want to over tighten that clamp.
How tight is too tight??
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: jason43050 on April 26, 2011, 03:41:43 PM
I used these directions and it worked like a charm! Thanks!  O0
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: AJ on April 26, 2011, 06:33:05 PM
Glad you found our site helpful.  O0
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: RAH52 on April 26, 2011, 07:47:29 PM
I need to invent a tool to put the spring loaded outer clamp back on . At times they go back on like butter ,other times not so good and then frustration takes over . If that tool has already been invented let me know . (and I don't mean 2 needle nose pliers ) LOL
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: AJ on April 26, 2011, 07:58:22 PM
The LG spring tool towards the bottom of this page may work.

http://appliancejunk.com/forums/index.php?topic=1579.0

I don't have the tool myself so I can't say for sure.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: tgoods on April 27, 2011, 12:11:03 AM
I've been doing these with the front panel in place. It's probably a lot easier with the panel removed, just a few extra steps.
For the front clamp, I hold it in place at the end of spring with my knee.  Then I can use both hands to work the clamp into place.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: dkal on August 31, 2011, 10:59:53 PM
Is there a way to reliably patch the bellow?  I have replaced three parts on this washer already an I am not keen on buying another replacement part.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: AJ on August 31, 2011, 11:08:54 PM
Is there a way to reliably patch the bellow?  I have replaced three parts on this washer already an I am not keen on buying another replacement part.

No, not that I know of. If I recall correctly sometime ago one of our forum members tried to patch one using bicycle tire patches. It held for awhile, but then started to leak.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: krazytech on August 31, 2011, 11:17:08 PM
use RTV 3M™ Scotch-Seal™ Industrial Sealant 800 this stuff will stick to anything,,,
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: dkal on September 01, 2011, 12:09:21 AM
I actually tried the bicycle tire patch, it lasts a couple days.  After finding this post I patched it from the inside to tide me over until I can find a better solution.  I am actually considering junking the whole thing and going back to a top loading washer.  So far I have had a broken strut, punctured internal drain hose and despite my best efforts (using very little HE detergent/ leaving door open after use / cleaning trap) the washer stinks of mildew.

Is there a way to reliably patch the bellow?  I have replaced three parts on this washer already an I am not keen on buying another replacement part.

No, not that I know of. If I recall correctly sometime ago one of our forum members tried to patch one using bicycle tire patches. It held for awhile, but then started to leak.

Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: dkal on September 01, 2011, 12:16:16 AM
use RTV 3M™ Scotch-Seal™ Industrial Sealant 800 this stuff will stick to anything,,,

Thanks I'll see if I can find it
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: washman on September 02, 2011, 10:38:33 AM
Hi from the UK

Here in the UK it is recommended to carry out the hottest wash the machine can do ,at least once a month to kill off bacteria as low temperature washes do not kill the bacteria. Most washers in the UK are front loaders and  people here wash at low temp.
The bacteria cause the door seals to turn black if not killed off by high temp washes. So I change more seals because of this than seals that are damaged.

Washman
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: spoonyjo on September 08, 2011, 08:45:37 PM
Is it possible to do this repair without removing the top of the washer? My washer has the dryer stacked on top and they're both wedged into a very tight alcove...
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: AJ on September 08, 2011, 08:56:42 PM
Is it possible to do this repair without removing the top of the washer? My washer has the dryer stacked on top and they're both wedged into a very tight alcove...

I do not believe so, if it's like the model shown in the photo you will have to remove the top before you can take the control panel off.
What is the model number of your washer?
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: spoonyjo on September 09, 2011, 09:23:43 AM
The model number is GHW9400PW0 (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252Fpartsearch%252Fmodel.aspx%253Fmodel_id%253D5135647) -- it's very similar to the one pictured in your photos above.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: AJ on September 09, 2011, 09:34:43 AM
I took a quick look at the GHW9400PW0 Diagram (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252Fpartsearch%252Fmodel.aspx%253Fmodel_id%253D5135647) and yes it does look the same.

I don't recall ever having to change one on a stacked pair, but I do believe your washer and dryer are regular separate units simply connected with a stacker kit.

I believe you will need to remove the dryer if you are going to remove the top of the washer and so on like I showed above. I have never replace a bellows on any front load washer without removing the front and I think on all brands that requires removing the top too.

That's just been my experience with them.

Your model washer uses bellows part # 8182119 (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-front-tub-seal--bellow-item-number-ap3597347.aspx%253Fpn_%253D8182119)

(http://appliancejunk.com/images/ordernow.gif) (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM0=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-front-bellow-tub-seal-item-number-ap3597347.aspx&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-front-bellow-tub-seal-item-number-ap3597347.aspx)
(http://www.appliancepartspros.com/partpic/Z3BqLjBfbXNfOTExMjgxOC9MUFcvc290b2hwdHJhcC8%3d.jpg) (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=omv7WULuxaw&subid=0&offerid=225193.1&type=10&tmpid=2111&RD_PARM0=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-front-bellow-tub-seal-item-number-ap3597347.aspx&RD_PARM1=http&RD_PARM2=%253A%252F%252Fwww.appliancepartspros&RD_PARM3=.com%252FAppliance-Parts%252Fwhirlpool-front-bellow-tub-seal-item-number-ap3597347.aspx)

Let us know how it goes or if you have any other questions.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: spoonyjo on September 12, 2011, 08:22:41 AM
Seems that the dryer is bolted to the top of the washer using the stacking kit -- so removing the top of the washer is going to be an enormous task, and beyond my abilities. And I'm not willing/able to spend the hundreds of dollars a service call for this would likely cost.

Upthread, someone had recommended using a sealant product to try to fix a front leak -- is there any more information about this? (How to use it, where to apply it, etc...)

Otherwise, I'll have to continue with my "towel in front of the washing machine to soak up the leaks" method...

Thanks!

Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: AJ on September 12, 2011, 09:22:17 AM
You could always try to do it with the front on as this guy does.


http://appliancejunk.com/forums/index.php?topic=306.msg35699#msg35699


but just remember the person in the above link is a experienced technician that has done many of them over the years.


There is a person in this topic that seem to have had good luck patching one from a maytag front loader.


http://appliancejunk.com/forums/index.php?topic=6507.0
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: Sasquatch on October 28, 2011, 09:01:11 PM
This site is a tremendous find!  So much information, all my local guys want to charge me $175 just to roll up to the door.

I know my problem, it's a leaking gasket on a Whirlpool Duet Front loader. 

I called a repair shop and was told it's probably the pump, it's right in that area and is known to fail.  Repair shop won't sell me a pump unless they come out and diagnose the problem. Off to the internet and find a pump at a relatively low price, have it shipped here and replaced in about 15 minutes.  Fire it up, still leaking.  Upon closer inspection with a nice bright flashlight I notice a slice about an inch long with a small amount of water coming out of it. Yup there's my leak.

Seems I'm going to attempt the tire patch method referenced from another thread. I'm leaving for vacation soon and the Authorized Repair Center needs to come out and make a diagnosis before they will order a part which can take up a week to receive I was told. 

Even though I told them it was the gasket which I made video with my cell phone which no one cares to see. I realize this is their price structure and way of doing business but a little common sense would help keep me a long term customer rather than a disgruntled old man who will go out of his way to avoid these guys and their business practices in the future.

I'm somewhat handy buy I'm not sure I'm confident enough to attempt this.  The pump went flawlessly yet I still wonder if I really did it correctly or if it's just waiting to bite me you know where!

I'll post some of my experiences with the tire tube repair just as soon as I get it done.

Thanks again for all the info out here on this site.  I've been checking the site out all over.

John
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: AJ on October 28, 2011, 09:09:22 PM
 O0
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: rmbraught on November 01, 2011, 07:02:33 PM
(1) Leave the door open between washes.
(2) half cup bleach in the tub, empty Hot wash cycle once a month
(3) in the U.S. we get to sell 'Afresh' (or similar) wash tablets to the consumer, for monthly cleaning (they do work)

Thanks krazytech; I'll check out 3M Sealant 800!
IMO older full size Duets are OK w/o front panel removed, the Duet Sports require me to pull the panel off (I'm old.) AFA marking the inside boot 'up' fitting, they're both marked by tub/boot molding.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: Animama on November 06, 2011, 06:17:19 PM
Thank you so much for these instructions. They gave my daughter and me the confidence to replace the door seal.


I recommend using a Sharpie marker to mark the position of the inner bellow clamp before removing it.    You DO NOT want to over tighten that clamp.

Thank you for this hint. It proved very helpful.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: Brent@CanBC on November 06, 2011, 06:58:26 PM
Have had complete success with the patch job on these boots so far.  Have done 8 now, and no call backs.   I don't use the 3M scotch seal Industrial stuff on the rubber boots,  I used it on other things but not the rubber seals.   
 
I use the "Gloozit" industrial clear stuff successfully now.   I also remove the front spring and access the under side of the boot, where the cut is,  and I apply a transperent 3M scotch 2"x2" patch after cleaning.  This patch on the under side keeps the cut flat, and easy to work with on the upper side.  Then I apply this Gloozit,  and I cover the cut 1"x1" size if its just a smaller cut, and more for the larger cuts.  I let that set and seal,  and apply a second topping,  and let that set and seal over night.  This is very flexible, but the key is to have the 2"x 2" patch on the under side to keep the rubber boot cut in place.  If the customer wants the new boot, they get the new boot.   I do try to work them to the new boot,  but if they hesitate, I offer them the patch, and they do go for that.   In my service area,  as probably yours,  my  people are very quick to make a decision.   They do at times drop off their machines for me, and go buy new in the City,  so again,  they are very quick to act on their problems.   I have done these patch jobs on the dropped off units,  and sold them,  and life just keeps on, keeping on hey.  Brent@CanBC
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: doseedo on December 31, 2011, 04:54:12 PM
Is it possible to do this repair without removing the top of the washer? My washer has the dryer stacked on top and they're both wedged into a very tight alcove...

You've probably solved this by now but I was able to replace the gasket / seal without removing the top and front. My dryer is stacked on top and I wasn't able to take it down.

It takes some patience but it can be done.

Pretty much follow the same steps described here but without removing the top/front.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: schaffersapplian on January 04, 2012, 06:59:47 PM
Yeah, I change all of the bellows now without taking them apart.  Doesnt matter the brand or size of the machine.  They are all pretty easy without taking them apart.  I must say the Electrolux style bellow is the the hardest though.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: niobrara on January 04, 2012, 10:35:41 PM
How do you do the back spring clamp without taking the front off? Even then I fight some of them.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: ScottyMo1 on January 05, 2012, 06:11:41 AM
That LG spring tool will not work on whrilpool springs, it does not open far enough to get the clamp back on. I've considered trying to heat and spread the tines on that tool to get a wider spread on it, but for now it's just on my list of things to experiment with. I too find it easier to remove the front of the unit. Usually can be done in about 10 minutes, so adds a little time to the repair, but much easier on the hands and fingers.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: schaffersapplian on January 05, 2012, 06:18:46 PM
Niobrara, Are you talking about the Electrolux style bellow with the inner spring around the tub?  If so i use the shipping bolts that come with the bellow to hold the gasket and spring in place and work it around.  Its tough, but still quicker for me to do it this way.  I use to take them all apart on all the machines to change the bellows, then i heard about a few techs doing them without taking them apart which sparked my interest.  First bellow i did was on a whirlpool that was stacked, and i forced myself to get it on there without any help.  took me a while the first few times, now its just like everything we do, repetition make's it like clock work. 
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: schaffersapplian on January 05, 2012, 06:20:06 PM
never changed a bellow on a LG washer.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: niobrara on January 05, 2012, 08:35:28 PM
Man dude your my Hero. Those things drive me nuts. I have to take the front off them.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: PARTech on January 07, 2012, 04:26:20 AM
That LG spring tool will not work on whrilpool springs, it does not open far enough to get the clamp back on. I've considered trying to heat and spread the tines on that tool to get a wider spread on it

If you take the temper out of them they won't hold, the first tool they came out with were not tempered and you could 'adjust' them by hand to work with just about any model... until they broke or wouldn't hold the bend.  So it's not worth heating them up.... especially not for the price.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: Bkyle1 on February 03, 2012, 08:52:14 PM
Any suggestions on getting the seal back on? We have the smaller version of the door seal that doesn't have a drain pipe through it. We have everything off and are trying to get the new one back on, but it doesn't go on smoothly. I know it is the right part because I bought the wrong one first and we had the ripped bellow off and it was obvious it was the wrong one. I ordered the part directly from the number on the one I took off and it looks right, we just can't get it on. Help!
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: bigbuck on February 03, 2012, 09:02:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFDqUvBgxH4
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: davidyoung100 on November 26, 2013, 07:30:21 PM
This is helpful thank you.

One question: I just had the bellow seal replaced on my Whirlpool duet. Now the small triangular piece of rubber on the seal is at the bottom of the door, pointing upwards. Is this correct? About a half pint of water collects in the seal after every wash and it feels like there are drainage holes at the top.

My technician assures me this is the right way but I'd appreciate a second opinion.

thank yo
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: niobrara on November 26, 2013, 10:18:56 PM
Drain holes are on the bottom.
Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: RAH52 on December 01, 2013, 11:51:02 AM

Drain holes are on the bottom.


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Title: Re: How to replace a Whirlpool Duet washer bellow tub door seal
Post by: GB-NC on December 24, 2013, 12:16:46 AM
The video was somewhat helpful.  If you have ever replaced a set of radiator hoses on a car you can do this.  I have an older duet machine that is around 10 years old.  I have had torn bellows before and usually called this into a repair shop.  Seeing this video showed me how simple this was.   I had watched the repair technician once before replace this where he never took off the top and front of the machine. I used this same approach and had it replaced in about 20 minutes.   

I only removed the lower cover below the door to take mine off.  There is a spring clamp that seals the front of the bellow.  I was able to remove this without any tool by slightly stretching the spring. 

Pushing the bellow back from the door I could feel the clamp and locate the hose clamp adjustment on the right side of the bellow edge. There is a large hose clamp that goes around the outside of the plastic drum that loosens using a straight slotted screw driver. I was able to get at the hose clamp by working from the bottom access area with a straight screwdriver bit on a flexible extension.  I loosened this until I could slide it off the bellow and drum.

You first position the new bellow, then tighten the large clamp. I had to press a small fitting through a hole in the top of the new bellow that went between 2 washers.  Then I needed to insert the water feed pipe through the top left portion of the bellow.

The final part of the job was to locate the front seal properly then put the retaining spring ring around the bellow.  I will never pay anyone to do this again.  Thanks