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Title: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: rcorcelli@cogeco.ca on August 15, 2012, 11:56:17 AM
Condenser fan motor not working. Replaced fan motor with new GE #WR84X10055. Fan motor still doesn't work.

Supply voltage at J2 terminal block on motherboard is 13.00 DCV. Signal voltage at J2 terminal block on motherboard is 13.00 DCV.

Supply voltage at motor terminal connector is 13.00 DCV. Signal voltage at motor terminal connector is 13.00 DCV.

New motor still doesn't work!

Ideas?
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: dab147315 on August 15, 2012, 01:39:45 PM
J2 pin 3 common and j2 pin 5 should get 11- 13 vdc.J2 pin 3 and pin 8 should get about same.If you don,t bad board.
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: rcorcelli@cogeco.ca on August 15, 2012, 01:45:43 PM
Appreciate your reply but my post describes exactly that situation. DC voltage at J2 pin 3 and J2 pin 8 is 13.00 VDC. That would indicate that the motherboard is OK,.......wouldn`t it.
Title: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: dab147315 on August 15, 2012, 03:01:19 PM
How about at the new condenser fan motor you should get 12 volts dc at white wire and and red wire.
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: dab147315 on August 15, 2012, 03:10:10 PM
Just reread your 2 post.Do you have 11-13vdc at pins J2- pin 3 and J2 pin 5?
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: rcorcelli@cogeco.ca on August 15, 2012, 03:19:21 PM
Yup,....11-13vdc at pins J2- pin 3 and J2 pin 5 and also, 11-13vdc at red and white at fan motor connector.

I`m buffaloed!
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: dab147315 on August 15, 2012, 03:29:19 PM
How about pink and white wire at condenser fan motor any dc voltage there ?
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: dab147315 on August 15, 2012, 03:49:59 PM
I was looking at a wiring diagram you probably don't have a pink wire at condenser fan motor.
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: rcorcelli@cogeco.ca on August 15, 2012, 04:39:08 PM
Hey Dab: First of all,......thanks for staying alive with me.

Yes, there is a pink wire at the fan motor connector and there is no voltage.

Only, 13.47DCV at the red and white.

Should there be voltage at the pink when the compressor is running.

By the way, there are three wires, red, pink and white, at the connector but there is a `blue`on the motor side connector which apparently isn`t used.

Thanks,

Richard
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: haroldsappliance on August 15, 2012, 06:00:01 PM
J2 connector. Place black lead on pin 2, red lead on pin 5. Should have 8-12 volts dc.
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: rcorcelli@cogeco.ca on August 15, 2012, 06:16:21 PM
11.85 DCV at J2-2 and J2-5
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: rcorcelli@cogeco.ca on August 15, 2012, 06:20:11 PM
Also, I said earlier, no voltage at fan motor connector pink and white. That was wrong,.....compressor wasn`t on. There is actually 13.00 DCV at Pink and white at motor connector.
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: haroldsappliance on August 16, 2012, 04:45:50 AM
Sounds like a faulty motor or an open circuit between the board and the motor. Check for supply at motor.
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: rcorcelli@cogeco.ca on August 16, 2012, 08:59:28 AM
Harold: Thanks for reply,......please note previous post, "There is actually 13.00 DCV at Pink and white at motor connector and 13.00 DCV at red and white at motor connector".

Bad NEW motor??
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: Joebeef on August 16, 2012, 10:30:19 AM
According to manual you should have 5.5 volts DC to 12volts DC to yellow and white wires at fan harness depending on speed motherboard is asking for....maybe the board is bad.
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: Joebeef on August 16, 2012, 10:41:20 AM
Just realized your wires are different colors...Red and white should be 13.6 volts DC, your pink and white I would imagine should be 5.5 volts to 12 volts DC....just because the colors are different the results should be the same.
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: rcorcelli@cogeco.ca on August 16, 2012, 11:35:26 AM
Hey JoeBeef: thanx for reply. That's exactly the situation,......13 DCV at red/white; 13 DCV at pink/white.

Do you think new motor is bad? How do I use ohmmeter to check continuity on new motor?
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: dab147315 on August 16, 2012, 11:49:16 AM
Sounds like bad condenser Fan to me.You got voltage there but These refrigerators have a lot of board problems. If i install a condenser ran motor and did not work i would  install a board off truck next.As you can see these refrigerators are a bitch to work on sometimes.But saying that a bad new fan motor out of the box would be rare.Your call to see if you can return fan motor for a another one.But knowing these refrigerator it would not hurt to another board on hand.
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: rcorcelli@cogeco.ca on August 16, 2012, 12:13:53 PM
Hi Dab: My parts supplier tells me they sold 100 motherboards in 2011 and only 10 fans,....that's got to tell a story.

I think I'll try ordering the board and then 'sweet talk' them to take the new fan back if the old fan works with new board.

Thanks for you help.
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: AJ on August 16, 2012, 01:37:07 PM
Are GE refrigerators kind of known for bad fans motor taking out the boards too or is that just with a bad evaporator fan motor?

Just trying to remember what I have read about them in the past. Don't see much of GE around here so I don't really have the experience with them as some of you other guys.
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: rcorcelli@cogeco.ca on August 16, 2012, 04:57:07 PM
AJ: don't forget,......Whirlpool/RCA and Kenmore are the same as GE.

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Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: haroldsappliance on August 16, 2012, 05:13:34 PM
Now I'm confused. :2funny:
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: rcorcelli@cogeco.ca on August 16, 2012, 05:16:11 PM
....all made in the same factory, Hal!
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: dab147315 on August 19, 2012, 02:45:40 PM
rcorcelli@cogeco.caLet us no how you made out on your refrigerator.
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: rcorcelli@cogeco.ca on August 19, 2012, 02:56:01 PM
Hey Dab: I have the new motherboard but as it has a bunch of instructions about "eliminating thermistor wire" and "cut green wire in capacitor board", I thought I would wait until I have some time next weekend to work on fridge as it is working fine despite the condenser fan motor not working.

Thanks for your interest.

Richard
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: dab147315 on August 19, 2012, 03:11:21 PM
You can use a small box fan to cool the compressor if need to be until you install the board.
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: haroldsappliance on August 19, 2012, 03:11:46 PM
There's nothing special or difficult about installing this board. Check your serial number against what's on the instruction sheet. You probably will not have to cut anything. Simply install the board. Make sure you take static off your body by touching your fingers to unpainted metal on refrigerator. Do this before touching the new board.
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: rcorcelli@cogeco.ca on August 19, 2012, 03:14:15 PM
Thanks dab and Harold!
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: RegUS_PatOff on August 24, 2012, 02:01:36 PM
[quote author=rcorcelli@cogeco.ca link=topic=10615.msg52661#msg52661 date=1345049777]
Supply voltage at J2 terminal block on motherboard is 13.00 DCV.
Signal voltage at J2 terminal block on motherboard is 13.00 DCV.
Supply voltage at motor terminal connector is 13.00 DCV.
Signal voltage at motor terminal connector is 13.00 DCV.


were those voltages measurements taken while the Fan was connected ?
(should be)

from the installation instructions:
All BOTTOM FREEZER models:
STEP 2 ELIMINATE THERMISTOR WIRE IN PIN 2 OF J1 CONNECTOR
STEP 4 CUT GREEN WIRE IN CAPACITOR BOARD
 
 
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: rcorcelli@cogeco.ca on August 27, 2012, 11:08:29 AM
Hey all my appliance chat friends:

Have installed new motherboard and new condenser fan motor.

Condenser fan motor still doesn't turn however a section of the fan case, near the wire input area, gets warm and the motor shaft seems to have a "catch" when turning the shaft manually. It turns free when unplugged.

Other than that,....fridge works fine and it's 80F in our area today.

Still puzzled in Ontario
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: haroldsappliance on August 27, 2012, 01:35:52 PM
I'm assuming this is ANOTHER new condenser motor. If that's the case, it sounds as I previously stated that there is an open circuit on that motor somewhere between the board and the motor.
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: dab147315 on August 27, 2012, 02:32:29 PM
Check from J2 harness and to condenser fan harness with ohm meter.I have never seen this with problem with harness or wiring before but those small pins and connectors anything can happen.I would thing it would be at a connection.Like the J2 or condenser harness.What do you think harold?
Title: Re: GE # GDS20KBSAWW Bottom Freezer Fridge
Post by: haroldsappliance on August 27, 2012, 05:19:45 PM
Well, I'm assuming that two new condenser motors have been installed and a mother board, the only thing left in my experience is connecting wiring. The condenser motor is controlled directly by the mother board. It is in the compressor circuit. If the compressor is running, then the condensor motor should be on and running. I would ohm out each circuit from board to motor.